Customer Support · head to head
Groove vs Krayin

Groove
Customer Support
Simple, powerful support for growing businesses
- From
- $12/month
- Free plan
- No

Krayin
CRM
Open source Laravel CRM for sales teams that want to own the code
- From
- Free
- Free plan
- Yes
The short version
- Only Krayin has a free tier, so it costs nothing to try first.
- Each has a real cost: Groove billed per ticket at $1 rather than per agent, so support cost scales with how many customers get in touch; Krayin it is far less mature than EspoCRM, SuiteCRM or Vtiger, with thinner reporting, weaker forecasting and fewer built-in integrations, so evaluations that start from a feature checklist will not favour it.
- They diverge on capability: Groove covers Shared inbox, Krayin covers Lead pipelines.
- Prices and features above were last checked on 31 August 2026.
Where they differ
Only the attributes on which Groove and Krayin actually diverge.
Identical on both: user rating (Not yet rated).
What each one covers
Drawn from each product's published feature list. An absence here means we hold no record of it - not that the product lacks it.
Only in Groove
- Shared inbox
- Knowledge base
- Live chat
- Automation rules
- Reporting
- Collision detection
- Slack
- Salesforce
Only in Krayin
- Lead pipelines
- Contacts and organisations
- Quotes
- Workflow automation
- Email integration
- Custom attributes
- Roles and permissions
- Laravel package architecture
What people use each for
The jobs each tool is most often brought in to do.
Groove
- Shared inbox and help desk ticketing for small support teamsnot Krayin
- Handling email, chat and messaging support in one queuenot Krayin
Krayin
- A PHP or Laravel development shop wants a CRM it can fork and rebrand for clients without paying per seat or negotiating an OEM licence.not Groove
- An organisation under data residency rules needs the customer database physically on its own infrastructure, which rules out every hosted CRM.not Groove
- A small sales team wants an unlimited-user CRM where adding a tenth or fiftieth user costs nothing beyond server capacity.not Groove
- A Bagisto ecommerce store wants a CRM from the same vendor that shares its technology stack and conventions rather than a bridged integration.not Groove
Where each one falls short
Documented limitations, not opinions. Every one is a constraint you would hit in normal use.
Groove
- Billed per ticket at $1 rather than per agent, so support cost scales with how many customers get in touch
- A minimum of 250 tickets a month applies, which is a $3,000 annual commitment before any usage
- A quiet month still pays the 250 ticket floor
- No mailbox limit is published
Krayin
- It is far less mature than EspoCRM, SuiteCRM or Vtiger, with thinner reporting, weaker forecasting and fewer built-in integrations, so evaluations that start from a feature checklist will not favour it.
- Practical functionality such as certain telephony, messaging and marketing connectors sits in paid marketplace extensions from Webkul, so the free CRM plus the extensions you actually need is not free.
- The roadmap is controlled by a single services company whose revenue depends on selling implementation and extensions, so there is a structural incentive against making the core complete.
- You are responsible for the whole operational burden: PHP and MySQL hosting, backups, security patching, mail deliverability and upgrades, and a botched upgrade of a customised install is your problem alone.
- The cloud hosting page does not publish prices, so the managed option that would remove that burden cannot be budgeted without contacting sales, which undercuts the transparency the open licence otherwise offers.
Pricing, plan by plan
Groove
$12/month- Standard$12/month
- 1 mailbox
- Knowledge base
- Live chat
- Plus$20/month
- 5 mailboxes
- Full reporting
- Rules
- Pro$35/month
- 25 mailboxes
- Salesforce
- Enterprise SSO
Krayin
Free- Self-hostedFree
- Full MIT-licensed source
- Unlimited users
- No feature gating
- Cloud hosting and extensions$undefined/month
- Starter and Pro managed hosting packs from Webkul
- Premium extensions sold individually in the Krayin marketplace
- White label and custom development quoted separately
Which should you pick?
Choose Groove if
- You need shared inbox.
- You work on Web, Ios, Android.
- You also want knowledge base.
Choose Krayin if
- You need lead pipelines.
- You want to start without paying.
- You work on Web, Self-hosted, Docker, Linux.
- You also want contacts and organisations.
Questions people ask
- Is Groove or Krayin better?
- Neither clearly leads. Groove starts at $12/month and Krayin at Free, and user ratings are close enough to be indistinguishable. Choose on capability and platform support.
- Which is cheaper, Groove or Krayin?
- Krayin has a free tier; the other does not. Paid plans start at $12/month for Groove and Free for Krayin.
- Does Groove or Krayin run on more platforms?
- Groove runs on Web, Ios, Android. Krayin runs on Web, Self-hosted, Docker, Linux.
- Can I use Krayin for free?
- Yes. Krayin has a free tier, so you can try it without paying. Groove starts at $12/month.
- What is Groove best used for?
- Groove is most often used for shared inbox and help desk ticketing for small support teams, handling email, chat and messaging support in one queue. Of those, shared inbox and help desk ticketing for small support teams and handling email, chat and messaging support in one queue are not what Krayin is typically brought in for.
- What can Groove do that Krayin cannot?
- Groove covers Shared inbox, Knowledge base, Live chat, Automation rules. Krayin covers Lead pipelines, Contacts and organisations, Quotes, Workflow automation.
Answered from the vendors’ own pages
Groove: How is Helply priced?
Helply uses per-ticket pricing at 1 dollar per ticket. This single price covers all features including resolutions, drafts, churn alerts, upsell flags, feature requests, and documentation.
SourceKrayin: Is Krayin really free?
The CRM itself is MIT licensed with no user limit and no enterprise edition. Premium extensions, managed hosting and custom development from Webkul are paid.
Groove: Do I need to pay per team member for Helply?
No, Helply charges per ticket, not per seat. You can bring your entire team, AEs, PMs, and integrations without additional per-person charges.
SourceKrayin: Who maintains it?
Webkul Software of Noida, India, the same company behind the Bagisto open source ecommerce platform.
Groove: What's included in Helply's per-ticket price?
The per-ticket price of 1 dollar includes resolutions, drafts, churn alerts, upsell flags, feature requests, documentation, and all AI capabilities with no separate add-on charges.
SourceKrayin: What do I need to run it?
A standard LAMP or LEMP stack with PHP, Composer and MySQL or MariaDB. Any host that runs Laravel will run Krayin.
Groove: Is there a free trial for Helply?
Helply offers a free 12-minute demo walkthrough. Enterprise plans are also available for larger organizations.
SourceKrayin: How does it compare to EspoCRM?
EspoCRM is more mature with deeper reporting and a longer track record. Krayin is easier for a Laravel developer to extend and has a more permissive licence.
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