CRM · head to head
EspoCRM vs Groove

EspoCRM
CRM
AGPL open source CRM in PHP that you can self-host free or buy as cloud with seat minimums
- From
- Free
- Free plan
- Yes

Groove
Customer Support
Simple, powerful support for growing businesses
- From
- $12/month
- Free plan
- No
The short version
- Only EspoCRM has a free tier, so it costs nothing to try first.
- Each has a real cost: EspoCRM the AGPLv3 licence obliges you to publish source modifications if you make the modified software available over a network, which blocks resellers who want to offer a customised hosted version without opening their code.; Groove billed per ticket at $1 rather than per agent, so support cost scales with how many customers get in touch
- They diverge on capability: EspoCRM covers Entity manager, Groove covers Shared inbox.
- Prices and features above were last checked on 31 August 2026.
Where they differ
Only the attributes on which EspoCRM and Groove actually diverge.
Identical on both: user rating (Not yet rated).
What each one covers
Drawn from each product's published feature list. An absence here means we hold no record of it - not that the product lacks it.
Only in EspoCRM
- Entity manager
- Dynamic logic
- Email integration
- Sales pipeline
- Case management
- Reports and dashboards
- Workflow automation
- REST API
Only in Groove
- Shared inbox
- Knowledge base
- Live chat
- Automation rules
- Reporting
- Collision detection
- Slack
- Salesforce
What people use each for
The jobs each tool is most often brought in to do.
EspoCRM
- A small business that wants a CRM on its own hosting with no per-seat fee and no vendor holding its customer datanot Groove
- A public sector or healthcare team with data residency rules that rule out US-hosted commercial CRMnot Groove
- A developer or agency needing a CRM whose data model can be extended into a bespoke entity structure through configurationnot Groove
- An organisation with many light users, where self-hosting avoids paying seat prices for people who open the CRM twice a monthnot Groove
Groove
- Shared inbox and help desk ticketing for small support teamsnot EspoCRM
- Handling email, chat and messaging support in one queuenot EspoCRM
Where each one falls short
Documented limitations, not opinions. Every one is a constraint you would hit in normal use.
EspoCRM
- The AGPLv3 licence obliges you to publish source modifications if you make the modified software available over a network, which blocks resellers who want to offer a customised hosted version without opening their code.
- Cloud plans carry seat minimums of three, five and ten users, so a two-person consultancy pays for three seats and a small team wanting the Ultimate features pays for ten.
- Record ceilings are real on the cheaper cloud tiers, with Basic capped at 100,000 records, and hitting the cap means a tier upgrade rather than a small overage charge.
- Marketing automation, sequences and native telephony are thin compared with HubSpot or Zoho, so most deployments end up wiring in a separate mailing tool and a separate dialler.
- Self-hosting shifts the entire cost to your own team: PHP version upgrades, database backups and security patching are yours, and a neglected instance becomes an internet-facing liability holding your customer list.
Groove
- Billed per ticket at $1 rather than per agent, so support cost scales with how many customers get in touch
- A minimum of 250 tickets a month applies, which is a $3,000 annual commitment before any usage
- A quiet month still pays the 250 ticket floor
- No mailbox limit is published
Pricing, plan by plan
EspoCRM
Free- Self-hostedFree
- AGPLv3 licence, no fee
- Runs on PHP with MySQL or MariaDB
- Advanced Pack, Sales Pack and other extensions sold separately as one-off purchases
- Cloud Basic$15/month
- Three-user minimum
- 3GB storage per user
- Up to 100,000 records
- Cloud Enterprise$25/month
- Five-user minimum
- 10GB storage per user
- Up to 10 million records, extendable for a fee
- Cloud Ultimate$69/month
- Ten-user minimum
- 400GB total storage
- Unlimited records
Groove
$12/month- Standard$12/month
- 1 mailbox
- Knowledge base
- Live chat
- Plus$20/month
- 5 mailboxes
- Full reporting
- Rules
- Pro$35/month
- 25 mailboxes
- Salesforce
- Enterprise SSO
Which should you pick?
Choose EspoCRM if
- You need entity manager.
- You want to start without paying.
- You work on Web, Linux, Docker, iOS, Android.
- You also want dynamic logic.
Choose Groove if
- You need shared inbox.
- You work on Web, Ios, Android.
- You also want knowledge base.
Questions people ask
- Is EspoCRM or Groove better?
- Neither clearly leads. EspoCRM starts at Free and Groove at $12/month, and user ratings are close enough to be indistinguishable. Choose on capability and platform support.
- Which is cheaper, EspoCRM or Groove?
- EspoCRM has a free tier; the other does not. Paid plans start at Free for EspoCRM and $12/month for Groove.
- Does EspoCRM or Groove run on more platforms?
- EspoCRM runs on Web, Linux, Docker, iOS, Android. Groove runs on Web, Ios, Android.
- Can I use EspoCRM for free?
- Yes. EspoCRM has a free tier, so you can try it without paying. Groove starts at $12/month.
- What is EspoCRM best used for?
- EspoCRM is most often used for a small business that wants a crm on its own hosting with no per-seat fee and no vendor holding its customer data, a public sector or healthcare team with data residency rules that rule out us-hosted commercial crm, a developer or agency needing a crm whose data model can be extended into a bespoke entity structure through configuration, an organisation with many light users, where self-hosting avoids paying seat prices for people who open the crm twice a month. Of those, a small business that wants a crm on its own hosting with no per-seat fee and no vendor holding its customer data and a public sector or healthcare team with data residency rules that rule out us-hosted commercial crm are not what Groove is typically brought in for.
- What can EspoCRM do that Groove cannot?
- EspoCRM covers Entity manager, Dynamic logic, Email integration, Sales pipeline. Groove covers Shared inbox, Knowledge base, Live chat, Automation rules.
Answered from the vendors’ own pages
EspoCRM: Is the self-hosted version really full featured?
The core CRM is, but several paid extension packs including Advanced Pack for reports and BPM are sold separately as one-off purchases and are not in the free download.
Groove: How is Helply priced?
Helply uses per-ticket pricing at 1 dollar per ticket. This single price covers all features including resolutions, drafts, churn alerts, upsell flags, feature requests, and documentation.
SourceEspoCRM: What are the cloud seat minimums?
Three users on Basic, five on Enterprise and ten on Ultimate, so the advertised per-user rate is not the smallest bill you can pay.
Groove: Do I need to pay per team member for Helply?
No, Helply charges per ticket, not per seat. You can bring your entire team, AEs, PMs, and integrations without additional per-person charges.
SourceEspoCRM: What does it need to run?
PHP, MySQL or MariaDB and a web server. It installs on ordinary shared hosting or a small VPS, which is unusual for a modern CRM.
Groove: What's included in Helply's per-ticket price?
The per-ticket price of 1 dollar includes resolutions, drafts, churn alerts, upsell flags, feature requests, documentation, and all AI capabilities with no separate add-on charges.
SourceEspoCRM: Can I move from cloud to self-hosted later?
Yes. EspoCRM states customers own their database and data files, so an export and reinstall is possible, though you take on all maintenance when you do.
Groove: Is there a free trial for Helply?
Helply offers a free 12-minute demo walkthrough. Enterprise plans are also available for larger organizations.
SourceRelated pages
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