Cybersecurity · head to head
Ory Kratos vs VMware Carbon Black
VMware Carbon Black
Cybersecurity
Cloud-delivered endpoint protection and EDR, now owned by Broadcom and positioned alongside Symantec.
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The short version
- Only Ory Kratos has a free tier, so it costs nothing to try first.
- Each has a real cost: Ory Kratos headless means you build every screen, which is significant work compared with a hosted login page; VMware Carbon Black broadcom's enterprise model concentrates direct sales and support on its largest accounts and moves everyone else to resellers, so a mid-size customer can lose named support contacts and face a substantially repriced renewal with limited notice.
- They diverge on capability: Ory Kratos covers Headless API, VMware Carbon Black covers Endpoint Standard.
- Prices and features above were last checked on 30 August 2026.
Where they differ
Only the attributes on which Ory Kratos and VMware Carbon Black actually diverge.
| Attribute | Ory Kratos | VMware Carbon Black |
|---|---|---|
| Starting price | Free | On request |
| Pricing model | Open-source self-hosted, with a paid managed network | subscription |
| Free tier | Yes | No |
| Platforms | Linux, Docker, Kubernetes, Self-hosted | Desktop, Api |
| Founded | Unknown | 2002 |
Identical on both: user rating (Not yet rated), category (Cybersecurity).
What each one covers
Drawn from each product's published feature list. An absence here means we hold no record of it - not that the product lacks it.
Only in Ory Kratos
- Headless API
- Self-service flows
- Multi-factor authentication
- Pluggable identity schemas
Only in VMware Carbon Black
- Endpoint Standard
- Enterprise EDR
- Audit and Remediation
- Single sensor
- Live Response
- Workload protection
- Container security
- Watchlists and feeds
What people use each for
The jobs each tool is most often brought in to do.
Ory Kratos
- Products needing complete control over the look and flow of authenticationnot VMware Carbon Black
- Applications that must not hand user identity data to a third partynot VMware Carbon Black
- Teams building identity as infrastructure across several servicesnot VMware Carbon Black
VMware Carbon Black
- A SOC that wants unfiltered endpoint telemetry to hunt over rather than only vendor-generated alertsnot Ory Kratos
- A vSphere estate that wants workload protection deployed through the hypervisor instead of installing an agent in every guestnot Ory Kratos
- Replacing signature antivirus after an incident where the incumbent product had no record of what the attacker didnot Ory Kratos
- An organisation already inside a Broadcom or Symantec enterprise agreement that can consolidate endpoint onto an existing contractnot Ory Kratos
Where each one falls short
Documented limitations, not opinions. Every one is a constraint you would hit in normal use.
Ory Kratos
- Headless means you build every screen, which is significant work compared with a hosted login page
- More moving parts than a monolithic IAM: Kratos handles identity, and OAuth2 needs Ory Hydra alongside
- Documentation assumes real familiarity with identity concepts and is not a gentle introduction
- Self-hosting identity carries the security and availability burden that hosted providers absorb
VMware Carbon Black
- Broadcom's enterprise model concentrates direct sales and support on its largest accounts and moves everyone else to resellers, so a mid-size customer can lose named support contacts and face a substantially repriced renewal with limited notice.
- Continuous EDR recording is retained for a defined window and longer retention is a paid tier, so the investigation you most need is often the one whose telemetry has already aged out, and that is discovered during the incident rather than before it.
- The product assumes an operator: watchlists, policy tuning and alert triage are ongoing work, and organisations without a dedicated analyst or an MDR contract typically leave policies in monitor mode and pay for telemetry that is never reviewed.
- The sensor operates in the same kernel and file-filter territory as other endpoint agents, so running it alongside an incumbent antivirus, DLP or backup agent commonly produces performance complaints and requires maintained exclusion lists on both sides.
- Linux sensor support is tied to specific distribution and kernel versions, so a routine operating system upgrade can leave hosts without a supported sensor until a matching build ships, and anything outside the supported list gets no coverage at all.
Pricing, plan by plan
Ory Kratos
Free- Self-hostedFree
- Full identity server
- All flows
- Community support
VMware Carbon Black
On request- CB Endpoint StandardFree
- NGAV
- Behavioral EDR
- Device control
- CB Endpoint AdvancedFree
- All Standard features
- Threat hunting
- Audit and remediation
- CB Endpoint EnterpriseFree
- All Advanced features
- Advanced threat hunting
- Live response
Which should you pick?
Choose Ory Kratos if
- You need headless api.
- You want to start without paying.
- You work on Linux, Docker, Kubernetes, Self-hosted.
- You also want self-service flows.
Choose VMware Carbon Black if
- You need endpoint standard.
- You work on Desktop, Api.
- You also want enterprise edr.
Questions people ask
- Is Ory Kratos or VMware Carbon Black better?
- Neither clearly leads. Ory Kratos starts at Free and VMware Carbon Black at On request, and user ratings are close enough to be indistinguishable. Choose on capability and platform support.
- Which is cheaper, Ory Kratos or VMware Carbon Black?
- Ory Kratos has a free tier; the other does not. Paid plans start at Free for Ory Kratos and On request for VMware Carbon Black.
- Does Ory Kratos or VMware Carbon Black run on more platforms?
- Ory Kratos runs on Linux, Docker, Kubernetes, Self-hosted. VMware Carbon Black runs on Desktop, Api.
- Can I use Ory Kratos for free?
- Yes. Ory Kratos has a free tier, so you can try it without paying. VMware Carbon Black starts at On request.
- What is Ory Kratos best used for?
- Ory Kratos is most often used for products needing complete control over the look and flow of authentication, applications that must not hand user identity data to a third party, teams building identity as infrastructure across several services. Of those, products needing complete control over the look and flow of authentication and applications that must not hand user identity data to a third party are not what VMware Carbon Black is typically brought in for.
- What can Ory Kratos do that VMware Carbon Black cannot?
- Ory Kratos covers Headless API, Self-service flows, Multi-factor authentication, Pluggable identity schemas. VMware Carbon Black covers Endpoint Standard, Enterprise EDR, Audit and Remediation, Single sensor.
Answered from the vendors’ own pages
Ory Kratos: Is Ory Kratos free?
Yes, open source and free to self-host. Ory Network is a paid managed service.
VMware Carbon Black: Who owns Carbon Black now?
Broadcom. It acquired VMware in November 2023, and Carbon Black now sits in Broadcom's enterprise security business alongside Symantec. VMware branding is being phased out.
Ory Kratos: What does headless mean here?
Kratos provides identity flows as APIs and no user interface. You build the login, registration and recovery screens yourself.
VMware Carbon Black: Why do the docs use names I do not recognise?
The product has been renamed repeatedly. CB Defense is now Endpoint Standard, CB ThreatHunter is Enterprise EDR and CB LiveOps is Audit and Remediation. Older community answers and runbooks still use the previous names.
Ory Kratos: Does Kratos do OAuth2?
No. Kratos handles user identity; OAuth2 and OpenID Connect provider functionality is Ory Hydra, a separate component.
VMware Carbon Black: Does it replace my existing antivirus?
Yes on supported Windows, macOS and Linux versions, and running it alongside another antivirus is not recommended because the two agents contend for the same hooks. Check your compliance requirements, as some auditors still ask for a named antivirus product.
VMware Carbon Black: Do I need a full-time analyst to run it?
To get value from Enterprise EDR, effectively yes. The prevention tier can run with part-time attention, but the hunting and recording capability is only worth its cost if somebody is querying it, which is why many customers buy it through an MDR provider.
VMware Carbon Black: How is it licensed?
Per endpoint, per year, with the capability tier determining the rate and workload and container protection priced separately. Extended EDR data retention is an additional line item.
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